Norma Zager, who is one of the Granny-judges on NBC’s “Baking It,” believes chocolate is like a basic black dress: “It goes with everything!”

There’s chocolate pizza, cocoa powder in your chili, the list goes on and on. Her favorite chocolate recipe? “Open up a candy bar, throw it in your mouth and eat it,” Zager said. “If it has almonds, that’s even better.”

Debra Eckerling speaks with baker/comedian Norma Zager about the connection between food and community, how she combines cooking with comedy, and her recipe for chocolate pasta.

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